HOLNE PARISH COUNCIL
MINUTES OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Friday 10th November 2006 at 7.30 PM in Holne Village Hall
Public Forum: Mike Bonney asked that “class 2 "- those where press
and public were to be excluded - items be put to the end of the meeting so that
the public would not have to return having left the meeting.
Gill Gray said she was unhappy at the way this committee is run
as it was stifling action and imagination. DAPC have advised her that we may have
wrong sort of committee to take advantage of those people involved . Sally Foster
had advised that this could be “working party” and work independently of the Parish
Council. Mike Bonney reported that this feeling had been aired at the meeting he
had attended last week. A Dinning and R Copus agreed. Members asked that this be
on next agenda of Parish Council.
No members of the public were present, so there was no other public forum
Present:
Mike Bonney, Gill Simpson, Andrew Dinning, Paul Arrowsmith, Richard Copus, Gill
Gray
HAC0611.01 Apologies all present
HAC0611.02 To approve minutes of the meeting on October 12th 2006:
approved
HAC0611.03 Correspondence: none apart from letters relating to matters
already on the Agenda.
HAC0611.04 Holne Parish Council Approval of request to write to South
Hams Housing Officer: Mike Bonney asked that Rachel Bland (planning officer for
affordable housing,
S Hams) be present too. Agreed.
HAC0611.05 New housing survey: Gill Gray’s report was followed by discussion
minuted as HAC0611.07. Holne Parish Council had approved carrying out a new housing
survey for Holne parish.
HAC0611.06 Resolution to have a public forum at meetings of this committee-
no longer relevant if the Council approves a working group rather than formal committee.
HAC0611.07 Report
from Gill Gray on contact with
Rural Housing
Enabler re an updated housing survey for Holne and Scoriton. Agreed to recommend that Holne
Parish Council accept the offer of Sue Hitchcock to run a drop-in session in Holne
Village Hall to update its housing survey. As far as Scorriton is concerned she
believes that there should be a full survey. Had suggested that it should take place
in the New Year. As a result of Holne PC's approval in principle of a new housing
survey the Clerk could now contact her on behalf of Holne. Andy Dinning said he
would initiate formal procedures for Buckfastleigh West to undertake a housing survey.
HAC0611.08 Meeting with Chris France DNPA: Gill Simpson reported on
a very positive meeting, Chris France also had wanted a new housing survey. 3rd
Category for LDF Core Document – it would be necessary to prove a need for social
housing as opposed to a want. Mike Bonney cited the example of those on shorthold
tenancies who do not have security of tenure. Gill Gray read passages of the LDF
which show a change in emphasis in the nature of local needs. Holiday use examples
were made and although many of these could not be
described as affordable housing,
it still meant there was less housing for permanent use. A Dinning would contact
Phil Markham at DNPA re funding for a housing survey for Scoriton. Gill Simpson
also reported on the conference attended with message coming through that there
is this 3rd category of sustainable community with Holne a shining example. She
had made useful contacts involved in designing sustainable affordable housing. There being no members of the public present there was no need to exclude them, but discussion
of confidential matters has been separately recorded and circulated to committee
members only.
HAC0611.09 Reponse to letter sent to those on the housing register:
Paul Arrowsmith reported that 2005/6 housing register had had 200% more families
on it than present. Now 4 families made up of 12 people. It was possible that further
letters would be received. Many of existing were key workers. Andy Dinning reported
that Buckfastleigh West was aware of several
young families needing accommodation.
Gill Simpson urged that parish to galvanise people into making their needs known.
Mike Bonney thought that the lack of response from those with housing needs was
because people feel there is no point because it will never happen. Paul Arrowsmith
said that we should be positive as a great deal has been achieved since this Committee
was formed. Andrew Dinning reported on the case of the attempt to build cheaper
housing in Widecombe. Richard Copus reminded the meeting that this committee is
just talking about rented accommodation. “Right to buy” could not be condemmed outright
as it had given opportunities to many, but this Committee had agreed it wished only
to provide rented accommodation.
HAC0611.10 Letters received from potential landowners: 11 returns,
3 yes, others negative or undecided.. Agreed to follow up affirmatives and maybes
to identify the right land when an advisory group rather than committee. A note of the detail of this discussion is attached for committee members only.
HAC0611.11 Publicity update in Parish Link, HPC website and Holybrook
exchange A Dinning proposed that a press release re what achieved and new organisation
but this should
wait until the Parish Council meeting ratifies the working group.
HAC0611.12 Affordable housing sites to visit and meeting with Bridford
Affordable Housing Committee nothing yet arranged. Gill Gray - Whiddon Down – Sanctuary
Housing – who would come and talk – buy land to develop for affordable housing.
Need to involve housing corporation. Bidding round for funding closes in November
2007 for the next two years. Paul Arrowsmith proposed that the group should have
this as an agenda item for meeting with Mr Reading & Ms Bland - agreed Andy
Dinning proposed that he should contact a housing association to hammer out the
needs – Sanctuary Housing or Housing Matters - even if they were concerned with
producing houses for sale, their experience would be useful to the group. Agreed
to issue invitation for the next meeting. M Bonney commented that the land being
mentioned at the moment would be “exceptional” sites so no possibility of selling
houses. Andy Dinning feels that DC will be agreeable as we will have a site and
the new criteria will apply.
HAC0611.13 Community Land Trust Meeting Mike Bonney made a report
on his attendance at this. He had been impressed with Rachel Bland who had come
from Lake District National Park. Community land Trusts – Mike Bonney feels that
these would not be suitable for Holne all houses would be for sale. Would need team
of dedicated people to be trustees prepared to take on the work. Being local would
be the priority rather than need – up to trustees who would be beneficiary. Could
be a charity, has to be a legal framework to keep the land in perpetuity. Houses
sold on basis of increase of average income over time. Rachel Bland felt in Holne
situation exceptional sites the only way forward.
HAC0611.14 Date of Next Meeting Thursday 14 December if majority
able, at a venue to be decided, as long as can get Sanctuary Housing representative
to attend.